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Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
4/25/2015 3:30 pm
San Diego sends:
2017 Round 1 Pick 32

San Francisco sends:
2017 Round 3 Pick 31
FS Phillip Gossett
LT Steven Dominguez


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Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By Morbid
4/26/2015 10:54 am
****, I need to stop cutting players and bundle them together to get 1st round picks, Thats a whole lot of nothing for something

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By King of Bling
4/28/2015 12:19 am
Morbid wrote:
****, I need to stop cutting players and bundle them together to get 1st round picks, Thats a whole lot of nothing for something

No kidding, that was a lot of **** for a 1st rounder...weird that the champ would basically give away his first pick.

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By jgcruz
5/07/2015 4:08 pm
King of Bling wrote:
Morbid wrote:
****, I need to stop cutting players and bundle them together to get 1st round picks, Thats a whole lot of nothing for something

No kidding, that was a lot of **** for a 1st rounder...weird that the champ would basically give away his first pick.


Now that we're through the draft and training camp, here are my thoughts about the trade and my response to your criticism of it.

It's important to note that after examining the players available in the draft, I really thought only a couple would fill a pressing need. I also thought they were not likely to be available at 1.32. In hindsight, I was right.

Please also note I am a huge proponent of building a deep bench to help with situational substitutions and keeping your starters fresh. For instance, roughly speaking and assuming that their bars are in the right place, I would rather have 2 players rated 65 instead of one rated 75 and another rate 55. (Being relatively new to the game, I still struggle with trying to give equal playing time where players are basically interchangeable, but that is my ultimate goal.)

Furthermore, a 1.32 draft choice is low enough that you can't be sure you're going to get a star player. In fact, the three players drafted at 1.32 in our league's history are currently rated 68/72 (3rd year), 65/76 (2nd year), and 35/63 (1st year). Of those, I think only one hasn't yet peaked in terms of future rating. Admittedly, those ratings are based on my own edited weight system, but I don't think they vary wildly from the default weight system.

As to the specific trade in question, the two players I obtained from the 49ers for my 1.32 were an undrafted rookie free agent LT whom I rated at 52/73 and a rookie FS drafted in the 5th round whom I rated 53/66. More importantly, each had bars that I would find useful for my game plan. The real risk, of course, was whether either or both the acquired players' future ratings would hold up.

Flash forward. I now have two second year players who appear to be good a fit for my roster and are potential starters. The LT is now rated a 56/74 (+4/+1) after training camp and the S is now rated a 58/69 (+5/+4) after training camp. No matter how you look at it, both are valuable to me. More important than their overall ratings, I like both players' respective bars.

When you add that I also received a future 3rd round draft choice which might net another valuable role player (or even a starter), I don't feel I was on the shorter end of the stick.

That's not to denigrate the Niners who drafted 1.32. I'm sure that the player drafted fits their needs and the players given up in return were probably surplus insofar as their ability to further Niners' game plan (although not guaranteed to be released). Moreover, to receive a 1.32 for two unproven players, one of whom was not even drafted, represents a pretty good return on investment, Nevertheless, I am happy with the results and would do the trade again.

Best of luck to everyone this season!
Last edited at 5/07/2015 4:11 pm

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By WarEagle
5/07/2015 4:29 pm
Excellent response!

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By $B$Dog$
5/07/2015 4:38 pm
WarEagle wrote:
Excellent response!

A good trade is a trade that helps both teams. Well done SD & SF.

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By tosu
5/07/2015 5:22 pm
Weird, I kinda thought the same thing as King.
I still show the two you (SD) received as both being rated a 59 for their ceiling? Whatever the case, I hope it works well for you both, just seems lopsided but if both teams are happy, more power to you as we all see things a bit differently.
whatever the case, both parties involved in the trade are very good at this game. :-D
Last edited at 5/07/2015 5:23 pm

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By jgcruz
5/07/2015 8:42 pm
tosu wrote:
Weird, I kinda thought the same thing as King.
I still show the two you (SD) received as both being rated a 59 for their ceiling? Whatever the case, I hope it works well for you both, just seems lopsided but if both teams are happy, more power to you as we all see things a bit differently.
whatever the case, both parties involved in the trade are very good at this game. :-D


I get similar ratings ceilings to yours when I revert to the default settings. But they increase when I apply my my own weight settings. It will be interesting to see whether mine are accurate for what I am trying to achieve. If they're not accurate, I will simply throw the head coach under the bus to appease the fans.

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By laser
5/08/2015 11:21 am
One of the best features of this game is the ability for each of us to edit the player weights. Top players with high ratings in all categories will still show up as top players in any rating system but each of us value different things. This is much more realistic than other games where everyone sees the same current and potential rating.

Re: Completed Trade: San Diego and San Francisco

By Morbid
5/11/2015 2:09 pm
I was only saying that I usually cut those types of players instead of trying to trade them, I rarely make trades and if I do its usually someone coming to me first. Once in a while I will go after a player but if I do its a pretty solid offer.