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Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By MistbornJedi
2/24/2016 11:27 am
Down by 5, 1:32 remaining. Hurry Up setting in Gameplan at 3. Instead of going for it on 4th and 15, we punted.

http://cust21.myfootballnow.com/watch/1527#278309

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By punisher
2/24/2016 5:37 pm
MistbornJedi wrote:
Down by 5, 1:32 remaining. Hurry Up setting in Gameplan at 3. Instead of going for it on 4th and 15, we punted.

==== http://cust21.myfootballnow.com/watch/1527#278309


all I can say is maybe you should make that hurry up setting and push it to a 4 or higher so you wont have this happen to you.

Now if you do that and you still have the same thing happening to you then I would assume that would mean it is a BUG/ERROR/GLITCH that the admin will have to fix.
Last edited at 2/24/2016 5:37 pm

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By MistbornJedi
2/24/2016 6:54 pm
Punisher, read a little closer.

"Hurry up offense means you will not run the ball, you will go for it on fourth down, and you will kick onside kicks. A value of 3 will start hurry up at 3 minutes if down by 1 through 7 points, and 6 minutes if down by 8 through 14, etc."

Down by 5 points with less than 3 minutes meets the criteria for hurry up value of 3, and we should have gone for it rather than punt.

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By ibblacklavender02
2/25/2016 9:03 am
I wasn't aware that hurry up made your team go for it on 4th down....I thought you had to set a rule!

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By MistbornJedi
2/25/2016 2:51 pm
I thought it did based purely on the description in the settings, but perhaps that's out of date.

JDB, can you clarify what the expected Hurry Up behavior is?

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
2/25/2016 8:15 pm
Your team will punt on 4th down in certain situations, there is an algorithm that decides if a failed 4th down try would put your opponent into an easy scoring position then you will punt and hope your defense can make a quick stop. There is similar logic if you are down by too much that will prevent you from kicking the onsides kick and potentially giving your opponent a short field to extend their lead even further.

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By Gustoon
2/26/2016 3:04 am
jdavidbakr wrote:
Your team will punt on 4th down in certain situations, there is an algorithm that decides if a failed 4th down try would put your opponent into an easy scoring position then you will punt and hope your defense can make a quick stop. There is similar logic if you are down by too much that will prevent you from kicking the onsides kick and potentially giving your opponent a short field to extend their lead even further.


Like this > http://mfn32.myfootballnow.com/watch/1274#224287

The logic is obviously failing, this cannot be right? This is the 2nd qtr WHY would we go for it on 4th down, if as you say it would result in an easy score going the other way? This has to be a bug, or something needs tweaking. We were 19 - 7 down there was no need to put everything on the line.

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
2/26/2016 8:09 am
Gustoon wrote:
Like this > http://mfn32.myfootballnow.com/watch/1274#224287

The logic is obviously failing, this cannot be right? This is the 2nd qtr WHY would we go for it on 4th down, if as you say it would result in an easy score going the other way? This has to be a bug, or something needs tweaking. We were 19 - 7 down there was no need to put everything on the line.


Are you sure there's not a rule that caused that? The AI logic should never go for it on 4th down if it's not in the 4th quarter.

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
2/26/2016 8:12 am
jdavidbakr wrote:
Gustoon wrote:
Like this > http://mfn32.myfootballnow.com/watch/1274#224287

The logic is obviously failing, this cannot be right? This is the 2nd qtr WHY would we go for it on 4th down, if as you say it would result in an easy score going the other way? This has to be a bug, or something needs tweaking. We were 19 - 7 down there was no need to put everything on the line.


Are you sure there's not a rule that caused that? The AI logic should never go for it on 4th down if it's not in the 4th quarter.


I just checked your rules, you do have a rule that caused that.

Re: Hurry Up didn't go for it on 4th

By Gustoon
2/26/2016 8:18 am
Wheres my cone?